The following
it a Twitter debate between myself and two fundies (at first). I call them He
and She. He drops out in the middle.
Me: Can I ask
you some questions about God?
He: Any questions you ask isn't relevant because
you're assuming human logic can understand God and His ways.
Me: Not these questions.
He: Let's hear them.
Me: Is God
omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent?
He: Yes
Me: And God created everything?
He: Yes, and I know what you're going to ask me.
Lol
Me: Okay, what?
He: Just ask me the question. Lol
Me: Did God create Satan?
She: He was Gods right hand angel who lusted for
power thus falling and taking heavenly hosts with him so yes God created
Lucifer. Lucifer got power hungry & fell from heaven and became Satan
Me: Good, did God create evil?
He: Evil is the
absence of good not a creation in itself.
Me: Are you sure?
He: yeah you can't
create evil.
Me: Read Isaiah 45:7
She: And evil isn't the opposite of good, just
the absence. just like cold isn't the opposite of hot. just the absence.
He: Very sure. He allowed satan to have a choice.
Don't ask me why
Me: Did you read the verse in the King James Version?
He: be careful when taking single verses from the
Bible without understanding the context.
Note: This is a typical defense ploy. Out of
context can be real but in this case, God is bragging to Cyrus about things He
has done. Here's Isaiah 45:7 from the King James Bible 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I
the Lord do all these things.
She: atheists have a
habit of doing that.
Me: Of doing what?
Taking a verse as it is written? How can a direct statement from God be taken
wrongly?
Me: In Isaiah 45:7, it's
a direct statement from God and, in the King James Bible, clearly says, "I
created evil."
She: notice that the
context of the verse is dealing with who God is. that it is God who speaks of
natural phenomena ( sun light dark) and it is God who is able to cause well
being as well as "calamity" as other bibles translate evil
Me: So then, we can
question the words of God?
He: read it in context
dudeeee
He: You can take one
liners from any book and twist and turn them, fyi. You have to understand
context.
Me: My next question was, 'Is God more powerful
than Satan?"
She: You're the only one questioning God. and yes most
certainly He is. that's why Satan exists. He wanted to be as powerful of God as
Lucifer.
Me: Next question, Is God considered our father?
She: Our heavenly Father
yes.
Me: Could God destroy Satan any time He wanted to?
She: He's going to, yes.
Its Gods plan.
She: We dont know the difference. and we're better off not
knowing. God sent
His Son to make a way for us to live
Me: God sent himself to sacrifice himself to himself to forgive
sins he created himself...makes sense to me.
She: God did not create
sin.
Me: Okay, we can forget that question for my purposes it's moot
anyway. So to recap, God created everything,
God created Satan, God is omniscient, omnipotent and ominbenevolent and
God is more powerful than Satan, right?
Me: Here's my point: I
submit that your god is evil. If he could destroy Satan anytime he wants, to
protect his children that he loves perfectly and doesn't do it. Your god is
evil.
Me: Any being who purposely allows evil to happen and not stop
it is evil, too
Me: God created sin. He
made the rules that make up sin. Do you wear a cotton shirt with polyester
pants by chance?
She: No, God did not
create sin. I'm done for the night.